2026 Bowman Chrome Prospect Breakdown - NL East & Central

[00:00:05] Hello and welcome to Talking Cards with Grand Salami Ami The Jewce. It is me The Jewce today, but I do have a very special guest, Big Bob. How are you doing? I'm doing great, thank you. So, before we get to this, I want to introduce Big Bob a little more, even though we've met him on this podcast before. Today we are going to be all things Bowman Chrome. Bowman Chrome is coming out next week. Nobody knows the Prospect really, like Big Bob knows them. He's going to give you all the best info, he's going to tell you the best guys to look at.

[00:00:33] He does a lot of work, a lot of research, and then we go back and look at his hair for some research. It's all we did. There are many more tips and tricks in my experience by this new job. And yeah, this is, of course, the Talking Cards Podcast where you can find all your sports cards news, information, hobby news. You can find all the info about the latest product releases. Next week we will do a more in-depth deep dive into Bowman Chrome itself, the product, like what inserts and autos you can find, the checklist.

[00:01:01] But today, with Big Bob, it's going to be all about those individual prospects, all those guys that are making their appearance, that have first moment, especially the guys with autographs. And one more thing before we get into it, I do want to shout out Card Purchaser. You should follow him on X if you aren't already, at Card Purchaser. He's where you can find your real-time updates about product information as it releases. But if you really want those real-time alerts, make sure to join his Discord.

[00:01:27] And that's where you can find real-time alerts for not just Topps.com, but for all the retail outlets as well. All right, Bob. So, if you are new to this podcast or new to collecting, you might have heard about Bob. If you're on Twitter, you should know Bob. He is... Bob, what's your Twitter handle? Big Bob's Cards. Big Bob's Cards. And his website is prospectanalytics.com, right? Prospect-analytics.com, yep. Okay. Don't forget the dash. Yeah, make sure you go to the right place.

[00:01:51] And what he does is he evaluates these prospects on real data, but he really has a sports card focus on them. Because when you see, like, Baseball America and stuff and their analytics and, like, MLB.com, they are just projecting that prospect as a whole. But that does not necessarily translate to sports cards. So, what Bob does is not only does he translate to sports cards, but he has his own way of looking at the data that seems like it gives us a really good predictor.

[00:02:20] Where nothing's perfect, but what Bob does is pretty damn close, I would say. Yeah. It's kind of a, you know, it's a tough task when I got into Bowman. I started off as a prospect guy first before I was a Bowman guy, actually. And when I got into buying Bowman cards, I think one of the first products that I opened was 2020 Draft. That was a big one for me. I opened a ton of 2020 Draft. PCA, right? Yep, PCA. Yep, Mets were a great sleeper team in that. But when I started opening the cards, you know, you obviously, at the time, that's what you did.

[00:02:48] You went to MLB Pipeline, you went to Baseball America, you went to all these places. And then you come to find out that, you know, some of these guys who are the highest selling, you know, price-wise, aren't even on the top 100 list. And it was just, it always seemed like such an odd, like, you can look at Dynasty rankings for Fantasy. I find those to be a little bit closer than, like, a true prospect rankings because they factor in, you know, the age, the tools, because that's kind of, you know, what makes you valuable in Dynasty Baseball. So those lists were close, but not exact.

[00:03:16] And there was always like a, you know, well, this guy's good, but he doesn't have power. Or he plays for a team that's not that exciting. And there was no real science. So I kind of just refused to accept the fact that things couldn't be quantified. And over the years, I've just tried to take these rankings and factor all those things in. Power, you know, age, tools, team, position, all that stuff, as far as how much it usually affects your card value. And kind of came up with a little formula that we can rank prospects for the hobby.

[00:03:45] And it's been really fun. And if you really want, like, a full deep dive on these guys, make sure to join his website, like we said, prospect-analytics.com. So we're going to give, Bob's going to give a surface level of all these guys. This is a lot of stuff that usually you have to pay for to get this information. But Bob is kind enough to come on here and talk about it. But I don't expect him to give everything away. So, yeah, definitely join that. And you can really get some in-depth data.

[00:04:14] And then not only does he do that, but he goes back and looks at things. He gives you a lot of different points of view. This is not just a once a year or three times a year thing, I guess, for each of the Bowman products. This is a throughout the whole year. He's always throwing out new information and new ways to look at this and new ways to look at guys in the past. So if you are a Bowman junkie or just someone getting into Bowman, this is pretty much your definitive guide of who to look for and how to look for them. I appreciate it. No problem. All right.

[00:04:44] Well, today what we're going to do for this episode is we are going to be going over the National League teams. We're going to do it division by division. Let's not waste any more time. Let's start with the Atlanta Braves. And I only see one guy with a first Bowman auto. Yeah. Yeah. And as a Braves fan, that's kind of tough. You know, there's only one real autograph you can chase. It is a decent one. Alex Lodis. I'm a fan of his. You know, coming into this year, he was he wasn't going to be a hobby name, I would say.

[00:05:14] He's thought of most as a glove over bat shortstop. But the offense has really come along this year. He's got you know, he's in the 25 home run 15 stolen base club. The tools are pretty good. He's a little aggressive at the plate. Walk to strikeout ratio is kind of iffy. But the powers really pop this year. I mean, he chucks a ton of boxes. Braves prospects sell really well. You know, they have a lot of players on their major league roster that are locked up on long term contracts. One of the positions that they have a pretty glaring opening in the future is shortstop.

[00:05:43] Obviously, they have Tate South the scene. They have John Hill. But Lodis will probably be the first guy of that group to get a crack. I think he's the best defender. So he probably has the best chance of sticking at shortstop. And I mean, if you're a shortstop in the brave system, your cards are going to sell. So it's kind of tough because usually in the chrome releases, you everyone's going after the 17, 18 year old kids, the super high ceilings. And Lodis doesn't really like fit that. But because he's a brave shortstop, power and speed are good.

[00:06:10] I wouldn't be surprised at all if he's, you know, one of the more chased after players in this release. Yeah, we saw it with Eric Hartman in Bowman where, you know, he wasn't like the highest on anybody's rankings. But, you know, his prices just kept going up and up. And obviously, I'm pretty sure he's been doing pretty well. He's been justifying those numbers, actually. But you see how a Braves prospect, especially if it's like the one guy, how he can really start to glow up in terms of value.

[00:06:37] And the Braves have this thing where they tend to fast track prospects that they like. So it's not uncommon. Like Lodi started the year in single A. They promoted him to high A. He played maybe three weeks in high A and they promoted him to double A. And it's like when you're on that kind of timeline, obviously, I think that the space on that roster was made because Tate Southacene got hurt. But, I mean, if you're a guy like that, they're comfortable enough with you moving you up that quickly through the system.

[00:07:04] You know, barring a lockout, this is probably a guy that we see play shortstop for the Atlanta Braves Major League team next year. So if he's not very expensive when this product comes out, I think he's a great person to kind of, you know, hold on to and kind of ride that wave next year. Yeah, perfect. Let's move on to the next team in the NL East. We have the Miami Marlins. And we have a bigger checklist here. We have five guys with the first Bowman Auto. So at least a couple of them are no one to really talk about. Jose Castro and Chris Arroyo. Looks like they're nothing special. So we could skip them.

[00:07:33] Tell me about the other few guys. They actually have, I was saying this earlier, the Marlins are never an expensive team in Brakes and Bowman. But when I put out my article earlier, I kind of, as I finished all my deep dives on the players, I readjusted my PYT rankings. I could make a case for the Marlins as a top 10 team in PYT. They just, they have a lot of sneaky guys. Brendan Jones is one of them. He, I wouldn't imagine that he's a huge Bowman name because he's a 24-year-old outfielder.

[00:08:02] So, I mean, when you're 24 and you play for the Marlins, the amount of excitement that you have on release is usually not the highest. But the tools are really good. He came over from the Yankees. You've got Luis Kova, who's another, I put him in my personal sleeper category. His power hasn't really popped yet, which should probably keep his cards in check a little bit. I don't expect him to be super expensive, but the batted ball date is really good. He gets to his pull side really well. He just doesn't hit it that hard.

[00:08:26] But, you know, if he's someone who grew into strength as he matured, I think he could be a really sneaky hitter because all the contact metrics, the approach, everything else seems to be really good. But Santiago Solarte is a player that I fell in love with when I was writing up 2026 Chrome. And usually when it comes to DSL prospects, I am very harsh. I don't like DSL prospects, which makes Chrome a very hard release for me because there's just not a lot of consistency in the data. Guys dominate in the DSL. They come here.

[00:08:55] The translation, you know, it's not as easy as this guy crushed in single A. He should crush in high A. There are guys that crush DSL pitching. And then when they come to the States, for whatever reason, they just can't hack it. It happens all the time. So ranking DSL prospects is a little trickier. I actually have different things that I look for in DSL prospects as opposed to stateside prospects. But if you strike out a lot in the DSL, it's a huge red flag. And I will say that Santiago Solarte ran a K rate over 25% in the DSL, which I don't love to see. But you want to talk about lottery tickets in this release?

[00:09:25] This kid is an absolute freak of nature. Six foot five, 200 pounds as a 16-year-old when he signed. Obviously with being six foot five, long levers, long swing, there's holes in that swing. He's going to strike out. But he actually was kind of praised for his pitch selection when he signed. There were a lot of people that were high on the hitting approach. But the power and speed is crazy. Last year in Bowman Chrome, we had Chris Rodriguez of the Tigers, who a lot of people were after. Because he just had, you know, like top of the scale power for a kid that age.

[00:09:54] Santiago Solarte matched Chris Rodriguez's home run total. Two inches taller. Hit for a better average. Stole 42 bases last year in the DSL. When I saw the 10 home runs, 42 stolen bases, my eyes like lit up. I mean, you just don't see that from kids this age. I actually went on Fangraphs. Their data goes back to 2006. If you look at every DSL season that Fangraphs has data on and ask it to return any player with a 10 home run, 40 stolen base season,

[00:10:20] this year's Santiago Solarte is the only result that comes up. So he's kind of tricky. He's going to strike out a lot. And he's a Marlins prospect. They don't have the greatest track record with developing young hitters. And I think that that's going to give people pause. But like I said, if you're going for like, you play scratch off tickets and you want to hit the jackpot, I mean, this is a six foot five kid with possibly double plus power and plus speed. I mean, he's literally a specimen. So I don't think that he'll be a huge name when singles come out.

[00:10:48] I don't expect him to be in the top 10 prices because of the K rate, because he's a Marlins hitter. But the tools are phenomenal. He's a fascinating player to me. Yeah. And I just checked it out. So Grant Salami released his pricing for his 10 case pick your player. He's got Santiago at 450. So about 45 bucks a case. That seems like a pretty good deal because it's definitely not like a top tier pricing for someone that could break into,

[00:11:14] you know, where, like you said, he's got a very high ceiling, but who knows? And it's like in Chrome, honestly, even the guys who are top five chases in Chrome, some of them will flame out. So it's like if you're, if you're going to buy someone, I mean, this is, if there's a product to go ceiling hunting, Chrome's usually a pretty solid one to do that in. Right. Let's move on to my Mets. So they also have five autographs, but just a couple of guys really worth talking about. I'll let you take it from there. Yeah.

[00:11:42] So one that I had a hard time ranking was actually Randy Guzman, who I had him as high as 15, 16. I had him as low as 25. He really bounced around as I did my deep dives. Funny thing, the Mets actually have two prospects named Randy Guzman. So to this day, until we see these cards come out, I don't know if it's actually hitter Randy Guzman or pitcher Randy Guzman. I'm going to assume that it's hitter Randy Guzman because he's more exciting of a player, but this is just a fascinating.

[00:12:09] I mean, if there's two things that you want going for you for your cards to sell having, you know, plus, plus power and being a Mets prospect. I mean, that's like, that's a marriage right there. Those, if you're hitting tanks and you're a Mets prospect, that's, that leads to some card sales. Guzman's a pretty good example of that. He, he, he came on really well last year. This year, the strikeout rates up. He's, he's striking out at like, I think close to a 10% higher clip than he was last year. He's played at single A and high A this year.

[00:12:38] Contact rates are down, but the power is, he's so fun to watch. I pulled up other than AAA, the only league that has stat cast data because they have the ABS system is the Florida league in single A. The Mets St. Lucie team plays in the Florida league. So single A Mets prospects have stat cast data. So I pulled mine.

[00:12:58] I pulled up Randy Guzman's when I was doing my Mets and the amount of deep red, his, his max EVs, 99th percentile, his 90th percent EVs were 98th percentile. I think I saw that his 90th percentile EVs in the Florida league were the same or higher than Connor Griffin's were last year. To give you an idea of how hard he's hitting the ball. You sold me. As a Mets fan, you sold me. On the flip side of that, there's a lot of dark red.

[00:13:28] There's also some dark blue sliders on there. And obviously they're not the categories you want to be blue. He strikes out a lot. He chases a lot. The whiff rates, the swinging strike percentage, all, you know, 10th, 15th, 20th percentile. So that's, that, that, that's just kind of who he is. He's just a boomer bust. He's not going to make a ton of contact, but when he puts the bat on the ball, I mean, it goes. So he may be, if he's cheap, he might be a fun one for you. Well, he is cheap with Bert.

[00:13:56] So that, that's something he'd be eye on to only 160 for the 10 cases. So that is, that, like I said, if you're, if you're a Mets prospect and you're going to have a 30 home run season, I mean, that's. Yeah. All right. Let's change that R2W. Let's go from Randy to Wandy or Wandy, probably. Wandy Asesian? Yeah. Yeah. All right. Just 17 years old. Tell us about him. He's, he's a freak. This is obviously, if you're a Mets fan, this is the kid that you're after. I haven't done my top 10 article.

[00:14:24] He will be a top 10 prospect for me. I haven't looked at Bert's prices. I would imagine that in breaks, he's closer to top five. He's 1200 for the 10 case. How many players are more expensive than him? Do you know? No, I have no idea. There's a number of rookies that are more expensive. But yeah. Wandy, you know, Wandy is tricky for me. There's an argument to be made that he could have the highest ceiling in this product. The only problem is that when we saw him last year, he struck out a lot.

[00:14:51] He was, when he signed, when MLB pipeline came out with their initial rankings for that international class, they had him as like a 65 hit tool. I mean, they thought that this was going to be a polished bat. And he came into the DSL and he didn't play a ton. I think he had less than a hundred plate appearances. He struck out at almost like a 30% clip. So it's like 30% strikeout rate in the DSL. Huge red flag. On the other side of that, he was 16 years old this year. He turned 17 like two weeks ago.

[00:15:18] So it's like, I want to give him the benefit of the doubt because you don't see, I mean, when you see 16 year olds in the DSL, you don't see them perform at an extremely high level. Usually he did strike out a lot. He struggles with elevated fastballs, but the tools are unreal. I've hit a 246 ISO as a 16 year old kid playing his first professional season. I mean, like I said, when he signed, there were evaluators, you know, overseas that thought that he was the most advanced hitter in this class outside of Luis Hernandez.

[00:15:45] There's been a ton of praise, even when he struggled this year with strikeouts, when he puts the bat on the ball. I mean, he was, he had exit velocities over 110 miles an hour as a 16 year old. I mean, he's hitting the balls, hitting balls harder than MLB players when he's 16 years old. So it's like, that is going to sell in Bowman being a Mets prospect with this kind of upside is going to sell. I think the hardest thing for me is the hit tool. Like I said, when he came in, they were like, you know, this is a special talent. He could have a plus approach.

[00:16:14] It could be, you know, plus contact based on what we saw last year. The hit tools may be more like a 45, but if it falls anywhere in that 45 to 60 range, even if he got it up to 50, you're talking about a guy who has the potential to be the most expensive player in this product. Obviously we know there's one, there's a one and two in this product that everyone's after. But when you look at the tools, especially when you consider the franchise, the Mets are a top three hobby franchise. We saw what happened last year, Ellie and Pena's cards. He came out hot price-wise.

[00:16:44] Wandi, like I said, played this entire year, 16 years old. The power is special. The speed's really good. I could make the argument that he has the highest hobby ceiling in this entire release. It's just that watching him strike out at a 30% clip hurt my heart a little bit. Like I said, 16 years old. You gotta, you gotta, you know, give him a little bit of leeway with that. And I checked. He is top five for Burt in pricing. At least at my glance. I think he's number four. That makes sense. All right. Well, let's move on from the Mets.

[00:17:14] Is there anyone you really wanted to touch on? The other guys seem like they're, they're Kleiner Ramirez, White Vincent, Junior Impero. Yeah. Kleiner Ramirez is a decent deep sleeper. I think he was a pretty decent. He might've been a top 25 prospect in that class. Signing bonus, I think over a million. He had an okay year. He's, he's a pretty good deep sleeper for the Mets, but no, I would say Guzman would be like my B chase. And then obviously Wandi, if you can afford him. Yeah. Burt has, Burt has Ramirez as the number two Met looks like. Ahead of Guzman?

[00:17:44] Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Whatever. It looks like you're going to be buying some Randy Guzman and crossing your fingers later. All right. Let's move on to the Phillies. We've got four guys with their first Bowman Auto. It looks like once again, there's just one guy really worth talking about. Francisco Renteria or Renteria. And he's a monster. He is. He is one of the most. I know I got excited about Wandi because of the tools. Renteria's season that he had in the DSL. Again, I always say I don't trust DSL numbers.

[00:18:12] And then sometimes I see guys DSL numbers and I'm like, hell yeah. Renteria put up one of the most ridiculous seasons other than the guy who's a borderline number one chase, who I'm sure we'll talk about later. But every time I logged onto Twitter during the DSL season, you would see two names pop up. It would be, this is what Andrew Bell Gomez did today. This is what Francisco Renteria did today. Those are the only two players that I seem to see. And then when you look deeper, you kind of figure out why. Renteria this year, 17 years old, had a 303 ISO in 53 games.

[00:18:43] His stats were video game, 15% on the strikeout rate. So you're talking about a guy who's only striking out a 15% clip with a 300 ISO. Just absolutely ridiculous. I actually looked, because I saw that number and it like set off an alarm. There were 189 qualified DSL prospects this year, age 17 or younger. Francisco Renteria was the only one with an ISO over 300. I looked at last year, not a single player did it. So, I mean, this is something that you don't see.

[00:19:11] And if you go back a year further to 2024, there were two guys that did it. They were Emil Morales and Rainiel Rodriguez. So, I mean, you're talking about the power here. If you see it as a 70 grade, that's legit. But what's impressive is that a lot of these guys that are 70 grade power hitters when they're 16, you're looking at 30% K rates. His is half that, you know. There were four DSL guys who had 10 homers, 20 stolen bases. He had the lowest strikeout rate out of all of them. And his ISO is over 300.

[00:19:39] I mean, it was some of the most ridiculous batted ball data. You know, obviously the DSL data isn't super consistent. But, I mean, he was compared to Connor Griffin by international evaluators. That was kind of like the comp that they gave him. You know, this is a 6'3 kid. He's playing strong center field. He's clocking plus run times. Great athlete. Huge power. This is basically, I mean, if you're going to be compared to a player for Bowman, Connor Griffin's probably the guy that you want to be compared to. I mean, the upside is just huge here.

[00:20:09] I would imagine that he's also extremely expensive. But, yeah. I would be shocked if when this product came out and the singles started hitting eBay, if he wasn't one of the top three most expensive hitters in this product. Bert has him as a top three guy. $17.50 in the 10-k, sir. Is he third? I believe he's third. Probably. Yeah. Yeah, obviously we have. But, yeah. He's a monster. He's... I don't know that I'll ever run on any of his cards. I would imagine he's going to be very expensive, but... He might be second. Hold on.

[00:20:38] I don't want to throw any spoilers out there. It honestly wouldn't be surprising. Like I said, this is an absolutely really ridiculous season. Chuck. A kid from San Francisco. So, he's ahead of Gomez from the Royals? Mm-hmm. Wow. Gomez on the Royals. Bert has him at $1,600. So, Renteria, he's got up ahead of him. I don't hate him. And he's ahead of Luis Hernandez. He has a number one. Is he the most expensive? Damn. He has a number one. Yeah. All right. I mean, all the things I just said, you kind of made the argument for him being the number one most expensive.

[00:21:07] I have him in my top three. There's just so many good guys at the top of this product, for sure. I like it when there's a few number ones, you know. But then again, I also like it when there's that clear number one. I just don't like it when there's that number one and a huge gap and everyone's like. It's the worst. Like, who was it? Was it 20? 24 Chrome. It was Leo. And then, I mean, there's some other good guys on that checklist. But at 23, it was like, 23 ended up having a lot of guys like Felman and Basayo. But when it came out, it was Ethan Salas.

[00:21:36] You were chasing Ethan Salas. And then the gap was, you know, at least this one you got a lot. It's pretty top heavy. There's a few good names up there. Our last team in the NL East, let's move on to the Washington Nationals. So we got three first Bowman Autos here. But, you know, nothing too impressive. I'll let you talk about Samil Serrano. Yeah, this kind of breaks my heart. When I did my write-up, I moved Serrano into my top 10. And before I saw any prices, any rankings, I was like, this is going to be my guy.

[00:22:04] There's always one guy that I'm super aggressive on. And then some people started sending me PYP prices. And they were like, oh, which of these players do you like? And I asked a couple people. I was like, how is Serrano looking? And he was way more expensive than I expected. And then other people's rankings started trickling out. I saw people put him in their top five. So there must be some helium going on with Serrano. Because I thought that I was aggressive with like a top 10. But it seems like a lot of people like him. So I wouldn't be surprised if he is expensive when it comes out.

[00:22:30] Because I think there's some sharp minds that are pushing Samil Serrano. I don't blame them. He was great this year in the DSL. He wasn't a huge, as far as compared to a lot of these guys who were in the top 10, wasn't a huge name at the signing period. I don't even think he was in the top 25 for Pipeline. Signing bonus under $2 million. So, I mean, he was a name. But he wasn't like, you know, these rentary in these guys, $4 million, $5 million. He wasn't one of those. He actually trained at the same academy in the DR as Emil Morales and Josuar Gonzalez.

[00:23:00] So, I mean, that's kind of like a hotbed for talent. He was given like average grades across the board. I think he was like 50, like 50 hit, 50 power. Like nothing out of this world. But his DSL season, his debut this year was unreal. Super projectable frame. Six foot three lefty. Just a lot of room to add strength. Just absolutely gorgeous swing. There's a clip of it that I'm going to link into my rankings. And, I mean, he generates loft. All the things that you want to see a young hitter be able to do.

[00:23:29] As he adds strength to that frame, I think that that power is going to pop. He hit .310 this year. More walks and strikeouts. ISO over .200. I mean, if there's a way to get on my good side as a DSL hitter, more walks and strikeouts and a high ISO. I mean, that's kind of like the bread and butter. If I can see that you're selective. If you're not striking out against bad pitching and you're also patient enough to watch those bad pitches, draw a good walk rate, and then when they come in the zone, punish them enough to where you're putting up big numbers. There's a lot of guys on the checklist who did this. Serrano was one of the better ones.

[00:23:59] I think I looked at it. He was... A lot of these guys are 17 or younger. I think I said there was 189, 188. It was around there. Qualified DSL hitters that were 17 or younger this year. The only two of them with an ISO over .225 and a swinging strike percentage under 8.5 were Gomez of the Royals we talked about, who's going to be top three prices everywhere, and Samil Serrano. He was the other one. I mean, approach looked good. The contact looked good. The power looked good. The ability to pull the ball in the air looked good. His frame is good.

[00:24:28] I mean, he checks a lot of boxes. I think that he... If you see people put him in the top five, I thought it was aggressive. I think it's aggressive. I thought I was aggressive going top 10, but I mean, there's a reason that a lot of people have started moving him. A lot of up arrows next to his name from people you talk to who watched a lot of DSL baseball this year. Okay. All right, so that's the NL East for us. It seems like every team at least has a little bit of something, which is good to see. Great, great, great, great division. With that, let's just move right into the NL Central.

[00:24:57] We'll start with the Chicago Cubs. They've just got two guys with the first Bowman Auto. Yadier Munoz doesn't seem like he's too exciting. He's just 17, but they do have Owen Ayers who you're higher on. He is 25 years old, but what do you like about him? Man, he's a tough one. Actually, Munoz isn't bad either. Munoz didn't play this year, which just makes, I mean, not only is it tough to collect DSL prospects, but one that didn't play, I mean, it's just tough to get a read. He was a decent signing bonus guy, but yeah, he's without having any sort of stats,

[00:25:27] he'll be a tough one. But Ayers is going to answer a question for me that I couldn't answer myself under my rankings. And that's how much will people reasonably pay for a 25-year-old non-debute catcher? I think is the question that we have to ask ourselves because I have deductions in my formula, in my prospect rankings for being a catcher because it's just a position that people don't love in the hobby. But there's bigger deductions for age. If you get up to 24, big deduction.

[00:25:55] 25, huge deduction. Despite being 25 and a catcher, Ayers is still a top 150 hobby prospect for me. I think that if you're looking at like you do dynasty baseball, I think that there's an argument for Ayers as a top 100 overall prospect in baseball right now. As much as I can deduct him for being a catcher and being 25, there's a production side of my formula and his numbers are just absolutely off the charts. I mean, what he's done this year, I think he's gone high A to AA to AAA, two promotions,

[00:26:25] and he's just absolutely mashing. And I don't, it's like you can't put him in the top 10 because like I said, he's a 25-year-old catcher. But if you're a Cubs fan, Cubs is a very strong hobby fan base. If the Cubs fans go to MLB Pipeline, they're going to see that Owen Ayers is the number two ranked prospect in their system. Being the number two prospect for a team like the Cubs, those cards I think are going to sell more than people are expecting. I think that it's easy to just write him off as a 25-year-old catcher, but Cubs fans really like this guy.

[00:26:55] They're really excited. He's very highly ranked. He's having just a ridiculous season. I don't know if he came back down after yesterday, but when I looked, he was batting 300 with 25 homers this year across three levels, 153 WRC+. I mean, it's what he's doing, switch hitting catcher, plays solid defense. I mean, I think that he is a good name to look out for. He's like bordering on my top 15. I can't remember if I put him 15, but he's a guy where if you're not someone

[00:27:24] who likes to gamble on these like toolsy 17-year-olds and you're like, I want the best bat, proven production, guy who's going to make it to the bigs, I think Owen Ayers is one of the better hitters that you can go after if that's kind of your style. I think when I looked earlier, he had the, there was only, there's only one Bowman prospect right now who's batting 300 with 25 or more homers and a walk to strikeout ratio over 0.5 and it's Josue DePaulo. And we all know Josue DePaulo. I mean, top five prospect,

[00:27:53] $200 base autograph. If Bowman and Chrome had released today, Owen Ayers would join him on that list. So it's like the production that he's put up this year, that's the kind of company that he's in. So it's like, on your one hand, you got surefire MLB. He's going to be in the MLB. Maybe by the end of this year, if he keeps hitting like this. Stats are out of this world. Fantastic hitter. On the other hand, 25-year-old catcher, non-debuted. So it's like, you know, he was a really hard player for me to rank. Yeah, that was the thing that stood out to me. That's why I immediately said it. 25 years old,

[00:28:22] but yeah, that's tough at Bowman. He's, as far as the first Bowman autos, he's the second oldest, I think, for this, for this world. It's tough, but like, I feel like if he was like a Diamondbacks prospect or something, it'd be one thing, but there are fan bases when you get at the top, Yankees, Mets, Cubs, Red Sox, where if you're a top three prospect for their franchise, their fans don't care. They're going to buy your cards. And I think that that's probably what's going to happen with the ONAers. So I'm going to go on a bit of a tangent, because while I have you here,

[00:28:52] I want to get your opinion on this. So this is away from the specific prospects, but with the looming MLB lockout, I think now might be really the time to invest in prospects, because as you know, but a lot of people don't know is even if the MLB is locked out, as long as you're not in the 40 man roster, right? You, your league is still going on, right? Correct. So when this is the only baseball going on, the only prices that are going to be moving is going to be prospects. And if that's all people can watch, I think it's, they're going to get so much focus and attention.

[00:29:21] I think their prices, the market is just going to increase. So the prices are going to go up during this lockout. I want, I want to agree with that. I've honestly been on the fence and a lot of people have asked me about this. What I think one of two things are going to happen. Like you said, people want baseball and this is the only baseball on. So they're going to watch minor league baseball, more attention to the prospects. Like you said, even when like the, if we're locked out and you know, tops flagship stuff starts for dropping for baseball, no one,

[00:29:49] no one's going to want to buy cards of players that are on the field. They're going to go buy Bowman draft because they can watch minor league baseball. That is, that's the argument that I'm hoping comes true is that if it's the only baseball on, it's good for us on the flip side, if I had to play a little devil's advocate, the lockout could just kind of like turn people away from baseball, which would be worst case scenario. And that baseball fans who are big MLB fans aren't going to just be like, Oh, well now we'll watch the minor leagues. They're just going to find something else to do.

[00:30:18] So it's like, I'm on the fence. I w I want to say that it will help the prospect market, but I honestly don't know. It's, it's tough. I think if, I think if it goes on for too long, I don't think anyone can disagree that it's going to be overall bad for baseball and bad for the hobby. If it goes on for an extended, extended period of time, but I don't even think people necessarily have to be watching these games in order for the market to increase. I think that people who collect cards like to move them, like to trade them, like to sell them, like to buy them. And as long as people are interacting with the market,

[00:30:49] they're mostly going to interact with players that are playing, whether or not they're watching them. I think that those, as long as those cards are moving, the prices are going to start going up overall. For sure. And like you said, you get, I mean, you have the downturn in the winter from the baseball off season, but if we get to February and we get to time where catchers and pitchers are reporting, and that's when we typically see baseball card sales go back up. If we're still locked out and the only guarantee for baseball cards that you have of players that are going to play are prospects. I mean, yeah,

[00:31:17] it makes more sense that that's where you would put your money. It makes more sense to me at least. Then again, it always makes more sense to me for, to put my money in prospects. So yeah, I'm biased. All right. Well, that was just a little tangent, but I wanted to make sure that we talked about that while I had you here. I'll get your point of view on it. So next up, we have the Cincinnati Reds, just a couple of first moment autos, but both of them, I think are worth talking about. We have the pair of angels at hells. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The, the, the biggest one Sally O is,

[00:31:47] I think I had him as a sleeper on my list. He's a guy who is repeating the DSL, which is like, it's like, I have such a hard time ranking players who repeat the DSL. If you're a good prospect, you shouldn't repeat the DSL, but certain guys do. And Sally O, he actually hit like three 31 with more walks and strikeouts in his debut season. So yes, he repeated the DSL, but it's not like he was so bad there. The first time some guys, for whatever reason, the teams just choose to keep them there to work on certain things, but he's a player.

[00:32:16] Who's really interesting. He's kind of a good sleeper. I don't think he's going to be very expensive, but six, two good frame, a good power. He he's a heavy ground ball hitter. So he has, he posts really good exit velocities, but it's more doubles triples right now than home runs because he gets a lot of ground balls, which is like, was kind of like rolledy Brito felon. Celestin kind of had that problem too. It's not super uncommon, so it can be fixed. I think that the, the, the, the, that the frame's good. The potential is good here.

[00:32:44] I knocked him down because he is a DSL repeater, but yeah, I don't think he's a bad lower tier name to go after. I think that when he gets to the States, if they're successful at teaching him how to generate loft, like I said, the frame's already good. The swing's already good. He could be a sneaky little sneak sleeper at the back end of this product for sure. And how do you feel about Nunez? I love him. He is top 10. He'll be in my top 10 back end of the top 10, but he's a player. There's, there's no addition in my, in my prospect rankings for being swaggy,

[00:33:14] but if there was on hell, Nunez would get max points for the Bowman Chrome release. He's just that type of kid. Like, you know, like how Max Clark is like the jet Williams, like the guys that just, they just bring life to the game. They just look like they're having fun out there. Nunez is one of those. He's electric. He was playing in, in, in world cup games when he was 15 and just showing really, really polished hitting approach. It was actually interesting. His, I, one of the words that I saw used with his play style was reckless.

[00:33:44] They said he plays reckless. And I'm like, I love that. That's, I mean, that's so fun, but he's super buzzy. Like I said, he is just a high energy guy, but he hits really well question. The only, he's got double plus speed. He's going to be a plus defender in center field. So that's kind of like your floor is you have this guy with a good approach, good hit tool, really fast plays, really good defense. The tool you're waiting on is the power, which obviously in Bowman, if you don't hit for power, it's going to be tough. He's projected for about average power. Most of the places you look,

[00:34:12] but his numbers this year in the DSL were, I mean, for a guy that we didn't think was going to hit for a ton of power, five home runs in 50 games, one 81 ISO pretty solid. I think that he had a, he, he was a guy that we thought was going to be a line drive hitter. When he was an amateur, he had a lot of line drives to all fields. He wasn't really a get the ball in the air type guy, which hurts your, your, your, your game power projections, but he actually had a good amount of fly balls this year. I think that because he's such a gamer, because he works so hard,

[00:34:41] he gets all these plus grades for work ethic student of the game. I think that, that he is a player who will do whatever he can to kind of like, if he realizes like, Hey, I need to get the ball in the air more to hit more home runs. It's clear that he's been working on that. I think when I looked in the DSL, there were 32, their swinging strike percentage numbers aren't reliable because the Hawkeye, I don't think they have it at all the field. So that I'm in the complex league, the contact rates, the swing strike percentages are kind of like, you take them with a grain of salt,

[00:35:08] but Fangross was showing 32 DSL prospects who had a swinging strike percentage under 7%, which is like, that's, you're never whiffing. His ISO was one 81. It was the third highest out of the 32 is the highest of anybody on this list. So like I said, he's student of the game, good contact, good approach, good speed plays with swagger. And then obviously you're waiting for the power to pop. But since there was more of it this year, than I think people expected to see from him in his age 17 season, I moved him way up my list.

[00:35:37] I think that a lot of people will be higher on other guys who are 6'2", 6'3", already have the proven power. But I love the way that this kid plays from the clips that I've seen. And I think that he's a good player that you take as a high floor. And if that power pops, then you just end up with so much more. That's kind of a profile I don't mind taking a chance on. Okay. All right. Well, let's just get right to the next team. We have the Brewers up next. They have a pair of prospects with their first auto and they both have really fun names.

[00:36:05] That is what stands out. So I'll let you choose who you want to talk about first. Oh man, they do have two good ones. And honestly, I'm interested to know where Burt has them priced because a lot of people who have sent me PYT pricing for the Brewers, they haven't been that expensive, which is shocking, which makes me think that maybe people aren't as high on these guys as I am. They're both $475, $525 for the player break. So that's not too bad. I'll do Frontado. I just posted about yesterday.

[00:36:33] He is just on the outside of my top 10. It's funny when it seems like in all these releases, there's some teams just have a type. And when I looked at the international rankings from the signing period before these guys played any professional games, Frontado wasn't in the top 20. And then you look at the stat line, you look at what these kids did this season. And all of a sudden he looks like he could be top five. And it's just like the Brewers just, I don't know how they keep getting away with it. It's like, how many times can the Brewers just hit on every pick that they make?

[00:37:03] And that's just what it seems like with Frontado. Like I said, he was like an average power, average hit, average speed. If you look at the, all of his tools that the evaluators, you know, rated in the international signing period, he looked like he was just going to be a decent guy. Comes in the DSL and just, just way more everything than you expected. 243 ISO, 18% walk rate. He struck out under 15% of the time, just typical Brewers fashion. He, you know, a little bit of a whippy swing. He, a lot of loud contact,

[00:37:32] all parts of the field flash plus run times. I think there's a lot of room for him to fill out. He's going to end up getting to more power than people originally thought. And when you talk to like the Brewers, I think that there was their scouting director. He's described him as just all around tools. He's just, he does everything well. So it's kind of hard. Like I said, in the DSL, I like to look at, you know, can you let bad pitches go? 18% are you getting beat by bad pitches when you swing strikeout rate under 15%. So like that walk to strikeout ratio,

[00:38:01] already a big green flag for me. And then, yeah, he, he, all of a sudden, you know, it's, he's showing plus power. That's a big green flag. He's stealing a bunch. He stole 15 bases icing on the cake. I mean, he just, he's one of those players. I don't think that anyone is going to give him a 60 grade for anything, but if it's a good hitting approach, it's good contact, it's good power, it's good speed. It's good defense. I mean, he's a Brewers prospect. They just absolutely crush it with prospect development. So I think he's a player that if he's, you know, if he's not expensive,

[00:38:29] I think that he's a good one to take a stab on. He won't be the most chased after prospect on their team. So being a player B chase is always kind of a spot that I love to attack and breaks. You know, everyone's going after the first player. They kind of will sell off what they hit of anybody else that they hit. So frontado might be the player B for the Brewers. I think that I, when I looked, there was 17 of the DSL prospects who were 17 or younger. Only four of them had 10 homers and 15 stolen bases this year in the DSL.

[00:38:59] Uh, frontado had the highest walk rate. He had the highest walk to strikeout ratio. This just feels like, to me, like, like a Brewers masterclass. I mean, they just find these kids. I mean, Jesus Madej and Luis Pena were both like a million dollar guys. That's just what they do in the draft guys. After the 10th round, they hit on those picks at just a crazy rate. I don't even understand what they're doing differently than everybody else. But frontado to me just jumps off the page as just another, another Brewers type prospect that he won't be in the top 10 in price.

[00:39:29] And then next year we're going to watch them in the States. And we're going to be like, we should have known, which is how I feel about all their prospects. Well, then let's talk about player. A you were saying he's a player. Number two, player B let's talk about player. Player. I said that on hell. Nunez gets 80 grade for a, for swag. If you get an 80 grade for name, it's Ricky monies. I mean, there's, I don't think that there's a better name that that's like, how do you go from Jesus Madej, which looks like Jesus made. It was already like a great name. And I got Ricky monies.

[00:39:58] The Brewers just pile it up. I haven't seen any of his autographs yet. I wonder if he does a little dollar sign. He has to. That would be, you ever see, reminds me of you ever see Jordan loves autograph with the heart. Yeah. I just got this. You got one. So I just show it off. The J heart. I love that. Yeah. See if Ricky monies has like a, like a RM dollar sign, I'm going to, I'm going to own all of them, but no, he's another one. He actually, I convinced myself, my top 10 is coming out tomorrow. I know that he's probably not priced as high. I, well,

[00:40:28] I know he's not priced as high because you told me I moved him ahead of Wandy and my rankings. And he's about a third of the price, most places. And it comes back to the Brewers. It's like, if I'm going to trust a team with prospect development, I tend to like raise prospects. I tend to like guardians prospects. I tend to like Brewers prospects. There's just something about them, you know? And well, Ricky monies was a player. What? To be fair to my Mets, they do have David Stearns now, but he has not had his magic with the Mets.

[00:40:58] Like he did with the Brewers. Listen, I, I think, I still think Ellie is sound crazy. I think Ellie and Pena slept on a moment. I think he's going big time next year. I got a breakout year next year. I got a nice painting. I got a, what is it? Blue reptilian auto. I feel like he hasn't gotten much hype this year. And I think he's, he started to get, he got hot last month and I think it came up a little bit, but I like him. Let's do a good job. The Mets, the Mets do great. The record doesn't say at prospects. Sorry.

[00:41:27] I should have clarified that they do good at finding prospects. Yeah. And then send them to the Brewers and they wouldn't have repeat. Right. I mean, but yeah, go ahead. But money's this kind of, I mean, frontado, like I said, he wasn't a top 20 in this, in the, in the MLB pipelines rankings, prior to the DSL season. I think money's was 20th. So again, he wasn't a top five name, like renter. And these guys that are getting four or $5 million signing bonuses. You know, they all had this pedigree coming in.

[00:41:57] Money's is a million dollar guy. He's another, as I said, Brewers masterclass. I love this kid. There so many up arrows next to this kid's name. When he was being scouted as a 16 year old, you know, a lot of people thought maybe there was going to be average power. He showed up to the scouting league, which they have overseas. And some of the notes that you can find from the international scouts who watched him, they said that it's not typical that you see players that age hit. I don't know if they call them lasers or moonshots where they're just,

[00:42:27] and they were like Ricky monies was hitting moonshots in this scouting league. He obviously, so that he, a lot of up arrows going into the signing class. We're all shocked that the Brewers are the ones who were able to sign him for only a million dollars. And then in the DSL, they're really good. Struck out a little more than I'd like to see 18 and a half percent, which sounds like nothing, but in the DSL, once you get creeping up towards 20, it's, we didn't have more walks and strikeouts. So it kind of fall back on that. But I mean, I've seen his bat speed referred to as,

[00:42:56] as vicious was the adjective that someone used. I mean, he, he absolutely lets it rip. He's, he's electric to watch. MLB pipeline updated their team top 30 prospects. And early July, they had no, they had a bunch of the DSL stats, the exit velocities and everything. Ricky money's one month into the DSL season had a one Oh 6.9 mile per hour, 90th percent EV, which if you were to put that in the MLB granted DSL pitching is not MLB pitching,

[00:43:26] but just like I'm talking about to give you an idea of how hard he hits the ball. His 90th percent EV in the DSL this year was around Juan Soto's Ronald Acuna jr. Bryce Eldridge. Like those are the guys posting those kinds of exit velocities in the MLB. This kid's 17 years old. They moved him. He was not even a top 15 international prospect in this class. He's now a top 15 brewers prospect. That's how quickly he moved up in one year. I'm willing to bet that he is higher by the start of the 20, 20, 20 seven season. Like I said,

[00:43:54] there's a lot of players in this product that sign for more money, more highly touted prospects. There was even, there's a bunch of them that had more productive seasons and than Ricky monies did. But there's a couple of guys that I know that are, are just very sharp prospect rankers, especially when it comes to the rookie levels. They're just very plugged in to the complex, to the DSL. And there's a couple of them that I know personally that told me that they think that Ricky monies is already a top 100 overall prospect. So it's like, you kind of hear the buzz. He's a brewer.

[00:44:22] And obviously the part that I like most about him is that he's not priced as high as a lot of people in PYP prices. The brewers haven't seemed overly expensive in PYTs. I think that money's is a top, he's a top 10 chase for me. I think that there's a chance that he could end up being one of the steals in this product. If all of the noise that I seem to have heard about him turns out to be true. Okay. Great. Well, that does it for the pair of brewers who you seem very excited about. Let's move on to the Pittsburgh pirates. They have five guys with first Bowman autos.

[00:44:52] They have a few to take note of. Let's start with a Hayoon Sung Lee. Yeah, he was, he, he went into my sleepers category. I'm interested to see where to, do you know where Salami has him price? He's one I've been interested in other prices on because he, Korean players typically sell well in Bowman. And I know that he has the international refractors. 190. He's, he's pretty cheap. Yeah. So yeah, no, I think he's a good sleeper. He signed with the pirates out of Korea. He actually played in the DSL last year, looked really good in the complex league this year, batted over 300.

[00:45:21] ISO was like over 250. The pirates brought him up to single a. He's still 18 years old. So this is, he's, this is a young, young kid. Pirates brought him up. He kind of struggled. They demoted him back to the complex league. As soon as he came back, he started hitting again. I think he hit 300 in the 20 games. He played after coming back from single a. So he struggled against single a pitching, which I don't love, but again, he's 18 years old. So I think that you kind of give him, you know, like a little bit of, of a little bit of leeway there,

[00:45:49] but he then gets traded to the Marlins at the deadline. I thought that maybe because he had played in single a with the pirates in the past, that at the end of the complex league season, we might see the Marlins put him into single a. We get to see him, but we have not seen him yet as a member of the Marlins. And he doesn't have any reported injuries. So I don't know if they're just, he's at the complex facility working with the team or we see him in a, I don't know if he's playing in the bridge league or anything like that, but yeah, he's very interesting. I've seen people rank him as a top 300,

[00:46:19] 400 overall prospect. I could make an argument for him as a sneaky top 25 chase, just because I said, Korean players usually sell well. He's got those international refractors. There's all kinds of prospects that sell for more than they should because of that whole international market thing. I think he has that going for him. And I think he actually has a decent amount of upside on the field. We just haven't seen it past the rookie levels, which makes it kind of tough. But I mean, for an 18 year old kid, I think that he's a, a fine dart throw for sure. Next up we have Darrell Moreau.

[00:46:49] Man, he's a tough one for me. He is. So when I do my, when I do my rankings, there's always a, a section of guys where I just call them. They're not ranked. They're in my sleeper section, but I just, I just make the sub headline great hobby tools. And I'm just like, this is good power and good speed, but maybe the results aren't there. In 2026 Bowman, Braylon Antuniez was in that section and his stock has gone crazy since then. So even if the results aren't there, taking a chance on 18 year old kids with good power and good speed,

[00:47:18] not the worst idea. Morell was, he, he was a player that a lot of people liked his power and speed are really good. The pirates from at least what I read thought that he could have a similar type of offensive upside as Edward Florentino. When you look at him, it's very similar, big, lanky, lefty, good athleticism, ton of room to add strength to his frame. The issue is that since he came to the States, he, he hasn't been very good. He played in the complex league this year. He hit about one 80 and it just wasn't a great season for him. Had a good, good approach.

[00:47:48] Still drew a bunch of walks, but he was praised for his bat to ball skills when he signed out of the DS DSL, six foot four inch shortstop with plus power and above average speed. So it's like, he has all the things that will make your cards go. But I think at this point, he's still a little bit of a developmental project because like I said, until you see the stats, it's kind of hard to buy in too heavily. He had a 76 WRC plus this year. I mean, that's not going to make your card sell, but I mean, he's not going to get, if he doesn't get any buzz when this product comes out, which based on his stats, I don't know that he will.

[00:48:18] I think that he's a cheap player that you could take a chance on upside alone. As I said, the pirates really loved him when they signed him and he did draw some, some rave reviews for the athleticism. So maybe he's just an off season. He struggled a lot of, a lot of kids coming over from the Dominican. I mean, when you're 18 years old, there's just a lot, it's a lot of change to come over here and play professional baseball. So yeah, he, he's a fine, fine deep sleeper for me. Okay. And then another guy you have as a sleeper, according to this, Wilton Guerrero, Jr.

[00:48:46] Salami actually has him as the most expensive pirate prospect that we're looking at here. And he's twice as much as the other two guys. So Wilton Guerrero, Jr. That's not surprising. I mean, bloodline definitely plays in Bowman. I, you, you see players whose dad or brother or whoever, you know, like Jackson, the Jackson, Ethan holiday effect. When you have family that is professional baseball players, there's usually some bloodlines, Wilton Guerrero, Jr. His dad, Wilton Guerrero played in the MLB, his uncle, Vladimir Guerrero, Sr. Played in the MLB, his cousin,

[00:49:16] Vladimir Guerrero, Jr. I mean, there's that alone is going to create some hype. So I do understand why people are buying him, get the bloodline aspect of it. I think he's not a bad player to take a chance on at all. Every scouting report that I read on him said that every field he steps on, he's the best athlete out there, which I mean, that's never a bad thing to have said about you. He, he flies. I think the speed is about 70 grade. The only issue with long-term potential is that the power profiles for pretty well below average.

[00:49:44] I know there's some scouts that are a little more bullish on him as far as how much strength he can add. And he's one of the youngest players in this class. I think he just turned 17. So there are a lot of things working for him. I can picture him being like a, like, I remember Johan de los Santos to the pirates this year. He was like the same type of speed hit tool guy. And then he showed up, he hit one or two home runs in the complex and people started freaking out. I could see that happening for Wilton Guerrero jr. I'm not quite as high. I think he's in my top 300 hitters, but like right on the fringe. But yeah, I think the bloodline plays.

[00:50:14] I think the athleticism plays, but I would need to see a little bit of power before I, before I made a call on that one. Yeah. When you think of the Guerrero, you definitely think of power. So that's what you want to say. All right, let's do our last NL central team. We have the St. Louis Cardinals. Nothing really that crazy here. We've got two guys with first bowman autos, Juan Rujano, who not really much to talk about there, but Sebastian dos Santos. Yeah. He's, he's a, he's a big one for me. Where did,

[00:50:43] where does Salami have him priced? Do you know? 575. So more than the last few guys that we were talking about. 575. I think that's a steal. Is it still available? He hasn't posted it yet. He just posted the price preview. So 12 PM on a Friday. Um, so whoever's listening, if you listened before that is dropped, you still have a chance. Sebastian dos Santos is, he is, he, he'll be in my top five tomorrow. He,

[00:51:10] a lot of people like to go DSL heavy and Chrome products. So like, that's why Wandi and all these guys are so expensive. But the way I look at it is that if you're, as opposed to these 17 year old kids who are crushing in the DSL, if you're 18 and you've already proven to me that you can do it in the States, that bumps you up my list almost a hundred times out of a hundred. And dos Santos is one of the best examples of that in this product. I actually think that he went deep like a minute ago. Actually, I think he's gone deep twice unless I got the wrong alert.

[00:51:39] He is fascinating. I think he should be considered a top 50 hitting prospect for the hobby. One of the better DSL seasons of people who was left off the 2025 Bowman Chrome checklist. I think a lot of that had to do with the fact that he wasn't really a high profile signing. He had, he signed for under a hundred thousand dollars. Wasn't ranked in the international class. There wasn't much buzz, but he had a really good DSL season. One 58 WRC plus not a ton of power, but 13 doubles, four triples got them to an ISO over two 50.

[00:52:08] So that's kind of a thing that I look at, especially in the DSL. A lot of these kids, you're not going to hit. I mean, obviously some of them will, but not all of them are going to hit 10, 15 home runs in a season when they're 17 years old. But the reason you like to look at ISO is obviously ISO kind of similar to slugging percentage. It gives more credit to doubles and triples. If you're hitting doubles and triples at an extremely high clip, that's a pretty good indicator of future power. It means that you probably have good raw power. It just either you're hitting on the ground or it just isn't going over the fence. It may, might be gap power.

[00:52:37] So I love to see like the high doubles. Like if you can get an ISO over 200 with four home runs, in a season, all off doubles and triples, that's, that's someone that I'm like, I can't wait to see them next year. And Dos Santos has lived up to all of it. I mean, he is mashing this year, six home runs in the complex league. He had a three ISO over 300 in the complex league. Cardinals moved him up to single a, and I mean, he's still doing extremely well. 18 year old in single a. So he's what three, four years,

[00:53:06] three years younger than average as an 18 year old in single a. As I said with Wandi earlier, the Cardinals single a team plays in the Florida league. So we have batted ball data for the 200 plus plate appearances that Dos Santos has been in single a. It's gorgeous. I mean, for a switch hitting middle infielder, who's 18 years old, 94th percentile pull air percentage and 86th percentile chase rate. So, I mean, you're talking about taking an 18 year old kid. He just got to the States this year. He was so good in the complex that you threw him into single a.

[00:53:36] And two things you want to see ability to pull the ball in the air, which he's doing with a good max EV and a willingness to not chase pitches out of the zone. You know, when going up against that step up in pitching competition, he's doing those extremely well. He looks really good. I'm extremely high on Sebastian Dos Santos. And like I said, I love to take a shot on a DSL prospect, but to be a year older and show me that you can do what they're doing to levels up, that's going to ease my, you know,

[00:54:04] worries about how players will adapt to the move to the States if I've already seen them do it. So of the guys in this, in this product who aren't DSL prospects, as far as guys who have already played in the States, he is one of, if not the best one, I think. All right. Well, we're only two divisions in and we've already named like three of your top five guys. I feel like the NL is loaded. Yeah. And don't forget, if you like pitchers, Durangelo for the Cardinals, the switch pitcher, he's in this product. How are we talking about any pitchers yet?

[00:54:33] There aren't a ton of good ones in this product. Okay. But Durangelo is exciting because he's, I feel like, I feel like for the last couple of years, I feel like I, one of the indicators that a player is going to sell well is how often I've had people ask me over the last two years when they're going to get a card. And Durangelo, I feel like he's one of the big ones. Everyone's like, when's he going to be in it? When's he going to be in it? So he's definitely an exciting one too. The Cardinals are sneaky because of that. I think that he's that whole, I'm afraid to call pitching with both hands a gimmick because I mean,

[00:55:01] you're in the top 0.0001% of people. If you can throw with both hands the way he does, but, but the gimmicky stuff sells extremely well in Bowman. And I think the throwing with both hands thing, people are going to eat that up. All right. All right. So I'm actually going to, I know that we talked about doing the whole NL, but this episode has hit like an hour now. So I'd like to cut it there. So what we can do is we can do three episodes of two divisions each. And if that's good for you. Yeah. Just make it a little more digestible for the listeners,

[00:55:31] viewers, whatever, whatever you are out there. So yeah, next time we will finish the NL, we will get started with the AL and then we'll have one more episode with the AL. And then we will have another episode with Bert, where we actually preview the actual product and what you can expect, all the answers to everything. Thank you so much for being here, Bob. Thanks for, thanks for having me. All the loaded info. Always appreciated. This is the talking cards podcast. I am the juice. Have a good day, everyone.